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S&T Model 12 Full Metal Airsoft AEG Sub-Machine Gun with Folding Stock - Black

8 Customer Reviews

by Christian G. on 10/22/2020
"Got this while it was on sale for $179.
Out of the box it shoots around 396 FPS.
This gun is actually OEMd by AGM.
Orange tip was pinned and glued in place but not hard to remove.
It accepts the AGM MP40/STEN mags that evike carries now with the extra notch cutout on the spine of the mag. Older generations of AGM MP40/STEN magazines will fit and feed but won't lock in place because of the extra notch not being there.
There are no disassembly videos or guides for this gun but I managed to strip the gun down anyway. Re-assembly is downright awful. It uses a proprietary rotary style hopup unit, similar to a G36. The nub is a large diameter spring, standard hop up nubs are too small and won't apply any hop. The gearbox shell is totally funky as the folding stock is part of it, and closer in shape and form to a V3 but is still super unique. It uses a SHORT type motor and has a D-type pinion and sits in a motor cage.
The trigger contacts seem to be V2 spec but the wiring configuration is all over the place. The nozzle is right around 20mm long. The cylinder is ported and volumed for a M4 length inner barrel. Piston/piston head, gearset, ARL and cylinder head are V2/V3 spec. Spring guide is metal with no bearings and is a V2. I believe the tappet plate is a V3. There are 4 brass bushings and 2 bearings, both on the bevel gear. Selector plate and safety switch are definitely proprietary. Can't remember if the cutoff lever was a V2/V3 or proprietary.
by Nicholas F. on 05/19/2017
"I got this gun for about 50% off, and I have to say right now, it was worth it. The gun has a great weight to it, and it feels very sturdy. It's mostly metal, with the grip, fore-grip, shoulder pad on the folding stock, and charging handle being made of comfortable and tough plastic that I doubt will break.(unless you act rough and actually try to break it) Even the magazine is metal.

The folding stock is sturdy, it has some wobble but not enough to effect your aim and it feels nice on your shoulder. The battery is stored in the fore-grip, so it's best to get a small 7.4 volt Li-Po battery. The RoF on this is good, and it hits hard.

Mine came with a small bag of BBs, a speed loader, and a decent looking sling

My only problem is that when you get to the end of the magazine, around the last 3 bbs, the gun stops feeding and you have to hold it upside to get the very last bbs to fire. This might just be a issue with the magazine I got itself though, so get a extra magazine, they're only 14 dollars.
by Eric V. on 10/26/2016
"I just got this gun while it was on sale and so far I am loving it. No issues aesthetically except the orange tip was a pain to get off you have to soak it for like 30 mins. Other than that solid build everything was tight stock is a bit wobbly but I have come to expect that, front grip is good no wobble. I really like the metal upper adds some nice realism, overall very happy and if you were looking for a unique SMG I would recommend it.
Pros:
Good weight
Metal upper
Solid build( other than somewhat wobbly stock)
Unique AF
Good for attaching a one point sling to ( it hangs very nice)

Cons
Orange tip was a pain to remove gotta take out a small pin and then boil the tip for like 30 mins and it's not like it's a light gun lol
Charging handle is kinda flimsy but not an issue

Overall very nice gun so far
by Tien N. on 04/08/2016
"Received this gun yesterday and it appears to be well built. The upper receiver is all metal, the lower is polymer as well as the for-grip. The folding stock appears to be a bit frail but that is endemic with all airsoft wire type stocks.

The magazine is of the MP40 type but if you have MP40 magazines and want to use them with the "spaghetti" SMG you will have to do a minor mod to the magazine. You'll have to cut a notch into the middle of the magazine .5cm from each edge at the same line as the magazine band and about 1.5 mm deep. This mod will not affect the use with an MP40 but will allow the magazine catch hold the magazine for this gun.

The sling mounts are of the standard 1.25in NATO sling loop at the rear of the gun but if you have an HK type of snap hook on your sling, the front sling loop is a bit tight for it. Better if you have a swivel type. Just remember that this is an SMG designed before rails were even thought of so no, there is no place to put one on for any sort of optics.

The battery goes into the forward grip and you'd be best served if you use a 7.4VDc LiPo as it's a very small compartment. I like the latch for the battery compartment over my S&T "Grease" gun, it has a better latching lug.

The FPS is decent on par with the S&T Sterling SMG. So if you want to have one of the most unique SMG's out there this gun is the way to go. I'll post an update as to how it performs in the field.
by Jesse J. on 11/04/2023
"At the time of this writing this gun is out of stock everywhere. I had to call Evike and put in a request for them to pull one from an outpost to get this gun.

Other than the really old MGC M12S BV classic this is the only replica of the Beretta M12 on the market. The Beretta M12 is the Cadillac of second generation sub machine guns and one of my favorites when I was a licensed dealer. Sadly I had to dump my M12 SMG when I closed my doors as it was not a transferable item and it was one of the few guns I actually felt a little heartbroken when it was shipped off to it's new owner.

So when I saw this S&T offering my eyes lit up and I had to have one. Requesting Customer service to pull the gun from an outpost was an easy process and their CS was excellent during all of this.

The receiver of the S&T replica is stamped and welded steel like an LCT. That's great! But that's sadly where the great ends and I can see why this gun was discontinued. While none of what I'm about to list is a huge negative for me as I plan to retro fit some real steel parts onto it to fix the short comings I feel like this was probably a commonly returned item due to the build quality and as such Evike chose to dump the gun. (It's still made and available in Asia apparently)

Firstly if you're looking to put a tracer unit on the gun for night games or because you're like me with bad eye sight and have trouble seeing bbs in indoor arenas you might as well forget it. There are no threads on the barrel though as simple as the outer barrel is a part could be made to replace it fairly easily with threads.

Battery space is small to the point that none of my batteries work with the gun. Not even the really small 7.4V lipo I bought to use with my Echo 1 GAT.

The grip frame is completely plastic and gigantic to accommodate the heavily modified version 3 gearbox. Everything on the outside of the box is proprietary and very fragile. If you frag the selector plate or selector switch cog you're out of luck as there are no spare parts available and I can imagine this would be very easy to do given how the gun comes apart.

As to why I had to disassemble my replica well upon arrival I discovered that the butt stock assembly, which is cast pot metal, snapped off of the gun during shipping leaving a very sharp jagged hinge assembly on the back. I tried pulling the hinge assembly off without opening the gun up by removing the screw on the bottom but it will not come out as the hinge assembly is a part of the gearbox so I had to disassemble the gun completely.

My non-functional grip safety was also broken out of the box. It was rattling around loose and also appears to be made of pot metal and the ears which broke are way too thin from an engineering standpoint to not be anything but prone to breaking. Good thing this is an aesthetic problem only as the grip safety does not function as it does on the real steel.

There are a bunch of Phillips head screws holding the lower onto the gearbox and a large tapered pin that has to be knocked out. The grip assembly does not come off of the gearbox while the gearbox is in the upper as doing so would involve forcing the lower over the stock hinge. I had to remove the gearbox and grip frame as an assembly after removing all of the screws and pins including a large screw on the end cap which allows the end cap to just slide back and off the receiver.

I had to wiggle, tilt, and gently pull to remove the entire assembly. Once it was removed separating the gearbox from the frame was simple. Pull the trigger back while the gun is in semi tilt it up and pull it out.

The inner barrel is spring loaded and popped out during all of this. No big deal just be mindful of it. during reassembly I pushed the barrel assembly into place and held it forward as I inserted the magazine to hold the hopup assembly in place. Otherwise you'll need 3 hands to reassemble it as the barrel assembly likes to fight the gearbox for space.

It is a heavily modified version 3 and the hinge assembly is a part of the gearbox on the rear. I had to remove a few screws to seperate one half of the hinge assembly to pull what remained of my stock out of the gun.

Reassembly is a nightmare but not impossible. The gearbox has to be put back into the grip frame with the selector set to safe. As you drop the box into the frame you'll have to push the trigger back to clear then you 'll need a thin punch to push and hold the selector plate in the forward position as you drop the gearbox into the frame. You'll see it all line up through the screw holes in the frame. Install the two small screws at the bottom of the pistol grip and no other fasteners at this point. Then you'll reinsert the whole assembly onto the gun. I tilted and wiggled the grip frame assembly gentle back onto the gun. I tilted it as if I was hinging an Mp5 or G3 lower back up on an H&K pattern gun.

Once everything's back together and lined up you'll reinstall the screws and the tapered pin. Be very gentle as again everything on this thing is very fragile.

Worst part is getting the selector plate and selector lined up correctly. This took me approx. 30 minutes on it's own.

Internally the parts all look very cheap. I'm sure eventually it will fail. Good news is the gears, piston, cylinder, and piston head all look standard. Tappet plate looks like a standard V3 plate but I'd measure to confirm that. The switch assembly is mechanical with electrical contacts. Again proprietary.

As there are no other M12s available at the time of this writing I've opted to just keep the gun. I believe I have an M12 parts kit in storage and I'm hoping that I'll be able to retro fit the RS stock, grip panels, and charging handle to it. I'm excited to try and even considering dropping an HPA system into this gun.

Oh, it uses AGM Mp40 mags and the extras I sourced fit and function flawlessly in the gun. Just thought I should mention that!

I'm happy overall with the gun just a little disappointed that so much was broken out of the box. This isn't Evike's fault but rather the shipping company's fault for handling the gun so roughly. As a business owner myself I can tell you that UPS has had a sharp decline in the recent years. Fedex is a better option IMO.

If you're a collector and can get one for sure go for it. It's a unique gun with a rich history.
If you're buying this to play you might want to skip it unless you have a mechanical mind and a willingness to heavily modify parts to work.
by CALEB K. on 07/12/2023
"I've owned mine for a bit now. Out of allllll the 7.4v and 11.1v LiPos I owned, NONE fit the front grip. You need it mostly to be short since you have some slight room width-wise... Just not enough room for my shorter LiPos lol.
The metal receiver is some sort of magnetic metal and with it's behavior to being bent, I'd say some type of steel.
Typical budget AGM/S&T/JG internals. JG gears, metal (aluminum alloy?) non-bearing spring guide, unique trigger & trigger assembly, polymer piston (1 metal tooth), polymer piston head/cylinder head/nozzle/tappet plate, and some sort of coated brass cylinder. The motor is nothing to exclaim over. I am pleased that the piston head -_ cylinder -_ cylinder head has good compression.
Disassembly is mildly annoying, but not difficult. I have made an album to track my process to make sure I got everything back correctly, but maybe it can help others:
imgur.com/a/DbqcD4y

Due to the battery space, I am HPA'ing mine. I am also considering making a custom lower since the lower plastic housing on this make the grip insanely fat. I don't have small hands and it's not too problematic, but it seems so unnecessarily fat.

The front grip isn't too bad. It doesn't seem that far off from the real thing either. The body otherwise feels good! The charging handle works but upon returning, the bolt seems to get stuck and needs some help going all the way forward.

None of my mags work, which includes a B.O. MFGR MP40 which is SRC. Mine is quite loose in my MP40, so I can't say that I can just buy these to use with my MP40 unless I make a "sleeve" for that. AGM mags work as long as it has the matching notch. I hope to make a drum mag adapter for the standard mag plastic insert so I can get by with the drums I have. I am hoping that I can design a replacement mag insert to get some of my other mags to work since I don't want this many different types of SMG mags.

Pros:
+Nice body.
+Sturdy stock.
+Good compression on mine at least.
+Somewhat spacious inside the body around the gearbox and around hop/barrel which allows room for inline MOSFET!
+Unique, which is something most airsofters care about, right?

Cons:
-Poor battery space
-Mags (AGM) are only 55 round. My EPM 9mm mag is 0.5" - 0.75" longer, the same width, and manages to hold 140-BBs.
-Thicccc rear grip
by Noah L. on 01/08/2017
"great gun! would recommend to anyone!

PROS:
- solid build; a really solid build. the folding stock is surprisingly sturdy when expanded (I've had issues of all sorts with folding stocks). the fore grip is the only plastic piece on it, and still, that's really solid too.
- shoots really well.
- sling points are super convenient
- it has some weight too it (which I like)
- pretty reliable sights

CONS:
- the magazines are really small; as they only hold 55 rounds. there is no existing high-cap mag, either. I've had no real problem with it, as the mags aren't expensive, and i'm usually chosen as a medic anyway, which this gun is really compatible with. I recommend at least three extra mags, though. also want to be wise on your shots, as full auto has sucked up my ammo within several seconds.
- battery compartment is in the foregrip, which is fine, it's just a little tight in there.
- when the stock is folded, the only thing holding it in place is a magnet. it's a strong magnet, but not reliable. I've already had occasions where the stock came out while I was running or whatever. also not a big deal; really easy to fix. (I like the stock unfolded, anyway)
- the slide does nothing, but you can still pull it back (just like many other guns). yet, when you release the slide, there is a cheap spring that makes an annoying after-noise that kind of reduces the realism of the gun. I don't really care about it, but even when you're firing your gun, (this gun is not blowback, but) you will hear the cheap spring silently make noise from the impact of the hammer inside the gun. the sound reminds me of when you fire those dollar-nerf guns.
- regarding that this gun is a unique model, it will give you nothing when it comes to upgrades. still, not my problem; I bought it specifically for the unique build and reenactment.

overall, this is a really reliable gun, and is perfect for someone who is looking for a WW2-ish gun that is still high-performance (which is exactly what I wanted). in the end, I got what I wanted, this gun didn't disappoint. i'll give it an 8/10
by Kimberly D. on 04/10/2017
"pros:
rapid shooting
compact


Cons:
Stock broke for me
Not verry accurate
battery barely fits in storage