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"Just got this scope today and i have mixed feeling on this product
scope does what it does
pretty damn accurate
red dot only
-loses zero, I have read the rest of these reviews and they are right, i dont know if its just mine but when you switch from 4 to 1, the 1x lens is in a completely different place.... but i just use the iron sights and 4x so its not that big of a deal
-the top iron sight was loose and it couldnt be screwed in (thank god for superglue)
so ill give it a 4 out of 5 "I have to say, I was truly excited to receive this scope. To my dismay it doesn't live up to what I expected. At first glance and touch the build quality is solid for a clone and could with stand a good beating. The 1x and 4x magnification is a nice asset although, small eye relief squanders its full effectiveness.
Beyond build quality and variable zoom option nothing else is impressive nor worth $140.00.
My main gripes are with the condition of the piece. As I've read in the comments and in other reviews, my sight came tilted to the side by a good margin. Now, this wouldn't be a huge deal, could it have been fixed by the right and left adjustment "knob" although this issue was more with the base and scope itself. The scope was off kilter with the base and couldn't simply be adjusted. This is obviously a huge deal considering you can't properly sight in the sight at all or at least for very long.
- Good build quality, not great but good
- Variable zoom great application
- QD mounts are nice
- Off set scope on base (couldn't sight in)
I wouldn't recommend the sight, the con I had, although only one major one, it was a MAJOR one rendering the scope useless. This scope is expensive too, save up for something else. "-Pro's
Great looking scope
Zeroing system is clearly visible meaning any defections is easily detectable(something that you can't do in normal scopes)
Great aesthetic piece
Eye relief. Now when I got this scope, I got it despite the eye relief gripes because my love for the specterdr knows no bounds but DAYUUUM Is this eye relief bad. Your eye needs to practically be right up on the scope for this to work. What does that mean? It means no extension on your collapsible stock, has to be fully collapsed. No, absolutely no backup iron sights. This shiznit has to be on the very rear of your gun.
Bottom line. If you love Specters, and you want one bad. I know it's tempting, but really do some soul searching before buying this one. Because your going to make sacrifices to make this scope work.
Switching between 1x-4x there's a bit of an issue. I haven't seen the zeroing issue exact just yet but I do know where it comes from. The side with the 1x has a bit of play, this play will ruin your zero, the play will still move the switching tool which will adjust your reticule left and right. The adjustment screws do not move, so the scope doesn't actually "Loose Zero" like some of the reviews gripe about.
If you can't figure out exactly were in this play the zero is, it's better for you to adjust for either 1x or 4x and don't switch(Considering the nature of the sport probably want 1x) And honestly, also considering the nature of our sport, the Zeroing isnt an issue. In most cases you won't hit the first shot anyways, so you adjust according the the trail of your shot.
If you can get past the terrible eye relief, and you can figure out the throw lever to keep your zero between each one. This scope is great. "Overall, I'd rate this scope as decent at best. It is not necessarily "bad", but there are gripes to be had with the Phantom.
At first glance, the Phantom looks excellent. Although the little brim above the objective lens is not true to the real steel, it is a small enough difference to not bother me, and I am pretty particular about the accuracy of my replicas, especially when it comes to optics. The trademarks, although they only say "Phantom Gear" among other things, add a really nice touch. Overall, the look of the sight is wonderful and based on that, I'd give it a 4.5/5 if not a 5/5. It also looks wonderful on a variety of different weapons. Both my M4's and my PDR look nice with it (Although the PDR looks a little impractical).
Now the first issue I had with this sight is the QD Mount. Not quite sure if mine is a lemon or if other people experience this, but the rear QD lever does not like to lock in place firmly, but this is not too much of an issue, and it is easily fixable by tightening the bolt down once mounted. The locking mechanism still wont stay stiffly locked, but the actual lever doesn't move. My next issue was with this guns fit on a 20mm rail. Between all my guns, which include a King Arms M4, a G&G M4, a KWA M4, a Magpul PDR, and an Echo 1 Red Star AKM (With an aftermarket rail on it), the snuggest fit of this sight was with the King Arms and the PDR, but there was a notable amount of wobble. On the other two M4's the wobble was significantly greater, and on the AK, it simply would not stay on the rail. Something I noticed when comparing it to my replica Ampoint T1's QD mount, is that the thicker part of the QD levers that slide below the rail are noticeably slimmer than the T1's, making it hug the rail less snugly. By placing electrical tape on the inside of the mount, I was able to get it to snugly fit the KWA receiver, which is the gun I want to keep it on, but the way the sight attaches to the mount leaves it with a little big of wobble still. Worry not however, for I have dropped my gun with the sight on it twice, and neither time did the sight come off. For that, I feel the need to give them credit.
Now moving forward, my next gripe with this are the iron sights atop the optic. They are quite honestly awful. After dropping my weapon once, the rear sight bent out of shape and was loosened from the sight. This is remedied by tightening down the screw, but the iron sight bent forward, preventing me from accessing the screw. With the second drop, the rear sight became worse and the front post became wobbly. After that I all together removed them because it was too much an annoyance, which is a shame because they added more than you might think to the overall look of the optic, however it still looks wonderful.
Now I am not going to bring up the issue of the 4x-1x zero change in depth because there are other reviews that go into it more in depth, but if this is the first review you are seeing, then just know that the crosshair does not keep its zero when you switch from one magnification setting to the next.
My final issue with this is the eye relief. For such a large ocular lens, I would assume I would get better eye relief, however, my 4x magnification Acog has better eye relief. I personally did not have a terrible time looking down the sight with my ESS Profile NVG goggles, but someone who wears a full face mask, or goggles that are less slim than the ESS will have a definite problem. The lens of the optic will likely be up against your goggles or face mask. I had a little bit of an issue looking down the sight with my Iron Face mesh mask on in addition to the goggles, so I may try putting my MAX riser mount on the optic to see if it helps.
Overall, the sight, like I said, is decent at best. In terms of function, you are better off sticking to one magnification, which might I mention, the 1x magnification must be at least a 1.5x. The ability to put a red dot in the crosshair adds a lot to the optic when sighting in a target. Mounting can be an issue depending on what gun you're putting it on, so some modification may be needed. The overall look is worth it in my opinion though, as the SpectreDR is an intimidating and rare sight, so it'll definitely turn heads, and this functions just like an Acog.
I plan on getting the G&G to see how it matches up with this. Hopefully the mount will be better and the eye relief will be farther. "Great concept, but extremely poor execution. There's a good reason why the real ELCAN Phantom costs 2000+ dollars. The variable magnification mechanism is simply very difficult to be reproduced cheaply and reliably.
I purchased this thing based on all the rave reviews I saw here. A scope that lets you toggle between 1x and 4x zoom? That's what I call best of both worlds. However, when my scope finally arrived, an obvious problem appeared. The reticle simply doesn't line up between 1x and 4x mode. Zeroing in one mode will mess up the other, rendering the whole selling point of variable magnification completely pointless.
I assumed mine was just defective, so I started the RMA process with Evike for a replacement, while also purchased a different brand (G&G) of Phantom clone elsewhere, as I was planning to have two of these scopes eventually anyway.
To my displeasure, both the replacement scope and the G&G scope I received also appeared to have the exact same issue as the first one I purchased here on Evike. Now I'm not sure which brand they're selling on Evike, but if even G&G, a company known for their high quality, couldn't get this clone right, I doubt anybody else could manage to make a problem free clone.
Finally, I returned the G&G for a refund while started another RMA with Evike, hoping to finally get a working as advertised scope. It was a complete wishful thinking on my part, perhaps. The 3rd scope I received from Evike still has a misaligned reticle between magnification.
Right now I've given up on ever getting a properly working variable magnification Phantom clone, and just gonna use this as a dedicated 4x zoom scope. At least it looks great aesthetic wise when mounted on my rifle.
In short, stay the heck away from this scope. My guess is that all the raving reviews were probably all based on the relatively decent early batches, and the manufacturing tolerances have since gone to the toilet. Or I could be the unluckiest guy in the world. You be the judge.
On the side note, I'll commend Evike.com's speedy handling on my multiple RMA requests. This scope might have been a bust, but I certainly will continue to shop here for a long time to come. "This sight is awesome! Played all day yesterday with it and am extremely impressed. I was worried about spending so much on a scope, but I am very happy with it, and would definitely buy again in the future. This does 1x or 4x, there is no in-between.
-Surprisingly open field of view/eye relief
-Great crosshair, very clear
-Quick release levers
-Looks better than any sight on the field
-Easy, fast zoom feature.
-Not a good reflex sight. Even though it goes down to 1x, you will not be able to shoot with both eyes open as you would with a reflex red dot. Keep one eye closed when lining up your target and you are good.
-Illumination is very dim, which is no big deal to me as the crosshair is a black rangefinder type cross.
-Only has red illumination, there is no green like it shows in picture. But on the plus side the reticle it actually comes with is not depicted, but is fantastic. "Got my scope yesterday and placed it on my WE Tech G39K to complete the KSK look of my rifle. I have to say this looks insane on my G39K. The case for the scope is excellent, the build quality is great minus the front backup built in iron being loose. I love this scope, however, I have not zeroed this scope yet. Its an excellent edition to complete any modern special operations style loadout, including one like the German KSK. I love this scope the eye relief is great, its easy to mount and its solid. I would recommend this scope to anyone who wants to make a Special Forces style loadout.
Great eye relief
Excellent clear reticle on either the 1 power or the 4 power setting
Dot is extremely bright even in the brightest of light
Adds weight to the rifle, not really a con but, with a lightweight rifle it adds weight.
Loose front sight post, not really a problem but still.
Overall I would recommend this scope to any and all players who want a special forces loadout, or who want to improve their game or their existing rifle's. I'm going to make one more recommendation, use it on a gas rifle, it makes the gas rifle's way more exciting to use. "this was an amazing sight. it looks fantastic on my mk18. only reason it gets 4 stars is because the reticle came diagonal not strait up and down :( but i got used to it so i guess its fine. "I got this today and i should say, this is the BEST scope ive EVER had.. The reticle is great, external quality is perfect. Everything is just perfect..
-reticle is great
-material is very good, wont break.. Like ever
-qd mount is 'good
-came with the battery
-easy switch between 1x-4x
-packaging is really good (comes with its little bag)
-The PRICE! This scope is Under priced. Trust me.
-don't put this on a Scar-H you may have a heart attack cause it looks insane.
9.5/10 -because of the eye relief.. Not terrible but okay. (That's the only thing i can think of as a Con) "it looks Blocky, but. On the flip side. It weighs less then a Repo 552+FTS scope.
team pooled money to test one out to see if there where advantages over the previously mentioned set up.
TONS. The weight is a few ounces less, the Lenses are CRISP AND CLEAR, the magnifcation dosen't bounce like with most ACM FTS magnifier's
And its DAMN close to 1x, its like 1.2x then 4x Im NOT complaining about, it can be shot with both eyes open/without throwing your depth perception off.
We did not have any issues with a traveling zero as long as the Lever was thrown all the way over. if it was half tossed, then the zero would be off (of course).
Bottom line. Had no issues mounting on an AGM 416, Trigger Happy Krebs Kit, Or G&P Reciver's the QD lever's are semi adjustable for those with off spec rails. We did everything except test it on a .223 AR-15.
Zero didnt move on a King Arms GBBR. Worth the $150 (or $120 with there coupons) "I bought this and it was the damn right thing to do. The magnification is either 1 or 4 nothing in between which isn't a problem. The fact that I can run it with or without the unit turned on is another plus. Eye relief was hard to get use to but once I did it's easy to use. My KWA LM4 can reach out if I have to so it's nice to have the 4x if I really need it and the switch back and forth is very quick. Displaying
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