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"The 2015 APS M4 series are nice! Make sure you don't buy a Javalin version of the APS, make sure it's the APS logo. "EVIKE needs to delete these old reviews. The new 2015 version is heads and shoulders above the previous. I can't say I used the 2014 and prior version of this exact model but here is why it is a big deal to me and should be to potential buyers:
Silver egde gearbox! This is the ONLY good gearbox APS has ever made and now its standard. The old hybrid V2 GBs were absolute crap and this one is running way smoother, much faster, great wiring and contacts, and looks to last a long time. Someone ran a 30-40rps setup that broke the gears but I plan on staying where it is, which is near 20 on a 9.6v nimh setup. Not worried about that. Anyway here are the other upgrades from last version (along with pros):
Again, silver edge GB
RIS handguard is firmly locked in place and never twists off on its own
Metal quality is great all over, paint as well
A pretty decent crane stock with hardly any wobble
High RPS (just near 20 on 9.6v) for a sub200$ gun
Flipup sights are actually pretty nice and are keepers IMO
No mag wobble from using both included mag type and other PMags
Just an overall solid build
Hopup is not the best, will need new bucking
EBB is good for some but I am sure most will be disabling this
Bolt catch is finicky
Charging handle has a good bit of play in it
Wiring to the battery is really long, makes putting in batts a pain
Will be a PITA to get the mock suppressor off with all that glue
OVERALL - You get an awesome gearbox and RPS in a slick, full metal package
for ONLY 180$! This is a STEAL for beginners or anyone on a budget! All the other JG's etc of this price range have only less to offer with worse internals or externals, and other APS ASR's with silver edge GBs run 230-300$. Will keep this at 5 stars regardless of the cons because I am only 5$ away from a hopup fix which is all that really matter... the rest are mere grumbles over nothing major. I am overall very happy with this buy! APS is finally getting their stuff straight!!!! "It's an ok gun, the hop up kind of sucks though. This gun also is fairly inconsistent accuracy-wise. One of the things I dislike most about this gun is the RIS, while it's a very nice CNC aluminum, it twists around because it screws off of the receiver. when I tighten it all the way down so it won't twist, it's off-center about 15-20 degrees counter-clockwise. Basically, this ruins the point of having any lasers (other than a PEQ on the flat-top rail) as it will put their aim askew. Past that, it does have a nice, crisp EBB that has a satisfying "clang" with each shot. Overall, it's good, but could be much better, save up a little and get a G&P or something.
Nice metal pieces (body, RIS, suppressor)
Great for CQB (none where I live, sadly)
Can take LiPo batteries well
Built like a tank (this thing has taken its fair share of falls/people (me) falling on it
Buffer tube battery compartment with long wires and a big fuse, even with a 7.4v LiPo, it's hard to find a way to fit it all in there. (this is why I installed a crane stock)
Bad hop up (it sometimes lets BBs roll down the barrel)
Loosely spinning RIS (loctite could fix this), that's off-center when tightened.
One of the contacts of the gun's tamaiya connector pulls out of the plastic tamaiya sheath sometimes and makes it stop working. (Really bad when you're in the middle of a firefight.) "This is a decent out-of-the-box gun for those who don't want to tinker with any parts or deal with changing out internals. I haven't done any major upgrades to this gun in the last few months of owning this gun, and I'd consider myself a pretty advanced player. Only things I recommend swapping out are the stock (terrible design flaw at APS, batteries barely with in the buffer tube), and the hop-up bucking/nub. Otherwise this is a nice solid gun for beginners and advanced players alike.
However there are some things I didn't like about this gun. FIrst and foremost, the choice of stock was a terrible one. APS expects you to house the fuse box, wiring, and a battery in the buffer tube; this is a nearly impossible feat, especially with an 11.1 stick lipo. Also, don't expect to install any kind of NiMH battery in the buffer tube; it just won't happen.
The second thing I don't like about this gun is that there doesn't appear to be any way to remove the RIS from the receiver. Most tracer units won't fit down the RIS, and that's tough for darker arenas and fields. On a similar note, the threading on the inside is 14mm+, another poor choice in design.
As far as performance goes, I'm satisfied but not overly impressed. The stock bucking and nub was pushing BBs out to moderate distances with reasonable groupings. But nothing a Maple Leaf bucking and flat nub can't fix, right?
Overall I give this gun an 4/5, only due to the few poor design choices and it's not overly impressive stock hop-up performance. "I originally had problems internally but through good customer service I got it back in good shape.
Awesome blow back.
A few people i know have got a broken one and also had to send it back
Horrible battery space ( I recommend a 7.4v lipo and put duck-tape around to ends so it doesn't damage the battery)
loose magazine "i had an issue with the firstone that was sent to me but after great customer service i recieved my new one today. its full metal, shoots really hard, and is very durable.
good weight to it
loose magwell(piece of the soft side of velcro fixes that)
hard to fit a battery probably best to go lipo Displaying
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